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Matthew Ch. 9 Scripture Read by Alexander Scorby
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N/A Q&A
Tonight we’re going to do something a little different What I did is I started the recording earlier today and we did take on the song inside the recording because I decided not to upload our meetings They’re quite long three hours minimum and some of them actually one of them went up to four hours and I don’t know that many people are going to come in and listen to all that so if they do If they do get interested in what we’re doing and they do want to really get interested and look back into some of our earlier programs they can do that right off of our website so there’s no need to do that on YouTube but I want to put shorter things onto YouTube preferably things under an hour even under a half hour if possible We’re going record live through the PowerPoint to post it up on our YouTube channel Tonight we’re going to be looking at The Sovereign Citizen movement but we’re first going to look to see the beginning of our nation how things came to be We’re just going to cover a few things quickly In 1774, we had the First Continental Congress, and of course they were meeting because of problems with the King and it was right after the Boston Tea Party They were having problems with the King They came together in the First Continental Congress In the Second Continental Congress, they came together to talk about the Declaration of Independence and the separation from England or Britain In 1776, we had the Declaration of Independence (John reads) That is the key part of that is the fact that We the People have a right to alter or abolish the government that we’ve instituted and that includes changing servants and that is of course our intention in the Federal courts today what we’re doing but before I proceed further I want to make sure that I’m coming through okay
Terry: It looks good I can read it and I can hear you
John: Thank you The key thing of course We’ve been saying this forever It’s on our front page
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Only the people can save our Republic In 1787, The US Constitution Preamble, and this is when they completed the Constitution of course 1798, it took effect, George Washington was elected President and the Constitution took full effect and we became a nation but it actually was concluded in 1787 and I want to make a point to you because when you go into the Sovereign Citizen movement I’ve heard this many times and every person who has ever brought this to me I would say Well go get me a copy of it because I need to compare it The Constitution that I have on the bottom of it when it’s signed it does say 1787 but of course it didn’t take effect as far as us becoming a nation It took time to go through the process put things together voting President Washington into as President and that happened in 1789 Now actually I went out to Anna Von Reitz’s website and she’s got a claimed copy of 1787 and 1789 I opened them up I’ve got two screens so I scrolled together all the way through I haven’t found one word difference Whatever they had listed in 1787 is the same thing in 1789 and that’s the way I understood Any additions or changes that were made were made during that time process of The Bill of Rights which came into effect in 1791 but in 1787 they did agree on this Constitution as we see written and at that point in time when the Anti-federalists were making their arguments and saying they’re not going to sign it I think they added some things very specifically in Article 1 Section 9 and 10 which were prohibitions The government was forbidding certain things and one of the things they put in there of course was the Habeas Corpus but that might have been in there before I’ve got to go back into the Federalist Papers and see whether that was actually included before that argument or debate or was it in the argument of the Federalist Papers but in any event of course the Anti-federalist those really the end results of that was The Bill of Rights They were not As a matter-of-fact Jefferson working with Madison Jefferson was all for building the Federal government He was concerned because the other side had taken on the names of Federalists so they had to call themselves the Anti-federalists only because they were really pushing too much power to the government and without a Bill of Rights that document would or could be interpreted as more power where there would be no restriction to prevent them from really giving themselves more power In 1787 The US Constitution The Preamble says We the People (John reads) and that of course is another key point that We the People ordained this and we had the power and authority to do so that God had given us that power and authority when we made a covenant with him under The Declaration of Independence with the desire to live under his Law and not the Laws of men and thereby receive the blessings of liberty Article 3 Section 2 The Judicial power shall extend to all cases in Law and Equity arising under this Constitution The Laws of the United States and so there we have defined right here that it is Law and Equity is to rule our courts As a matter-of-fact the court case that we’re involved in right now that is the big argument and then have taken Law and Equity and put it together and call it Civil Law and that happened again in 1938 through the Rules Enabling Act of 1934 Article 4 Section 4 The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of government and shall protect each of them against invasion and that guarantee this is what opens us up to be able to go into the Federal Court for Cause For the sole purpose of Summary Judgments really That’s what we’re there for Whenever we go into a court in the Federal Court we bring something from a State or lower court We bring it into the Federal Court for Cause We’re there only to say Hey we’re not here to argue the case We’re here because there is a problem and it could be a Due process problem It could be a jurisdictional problem and whatever that is and the only ruling that a judge could make in this case and they have the power and authority to do so is a ruling on behalf of the individual the sovereign bringing the case in saying I’m not getting Due process
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Now the other side has the opportunity to say Hey wait a second We did allow him to open a Court of Law There is a Jury blah blah blah then of course they would win that case at that point but the point is – is that’s not the case and that’s why we’re there and it is the duty of that judge in that Federal Court to protect the rights of the People and through that power and authority that we gave them in the Constitution they should be ruling on our behalf and giving us whatever it is we’re asking in our Wherefore Clause and requiring a Court of Record to be opened so guaranteeing to every State in this Union a Republican form of government Article 6 Clause 2 This Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuant there of and all the treaties made of which shall be made under the authority of the United States shall be the Supreme Law of the Land and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby Anything in the Constitution or the Laws of any State to the contrary not withstanding so Supreme Law of the Land is this Constitution and that brings us right back to the fact that We the People ordained it We had a covenant with God Nobody can break that covenant There are people that think they can break that covenant and we’re going to look at that but we made that covenant with God and anybody who tries to intervene with that has to face the wrath of God ultimately at some point in time In 1791 The Bill of Rights The Conventions and this is in the Preamble the beginning of The Bill of Rights (John reads) Now this key words here to prevent construction or abuse of its powers and that’s why these further declaratory and restrictive clauses were added That means that the entire Constitution must be read in light of The Bill of Rights Anything repugnant to anything in The Bill of Rights is null void and that is the key to protect the Peoples rights and of course our Rights extend further than that which we had declared those clauses in The Bill of Rights Amendment Ten (John reads) and that brings us into some of the problems that we’re dealing with today where they think that they had the power and authority to come in and create what they call Rule 2 which again combined Law and Equity together called it Civil Law so we’re under Babylonian control Municipality The Law of the Municipality and we are now governed by their will and not by the will of the People through the will God under his Law and rules The Conspiracy to Destroy Our Republic It started way in the beginning even before the Declaration of Independence came to be there were problems but as soon as we came out with the Declaration of Independence I’m sure they were aware that we were coming to that point early on but in 1776 when the Declaration came into effect and we separated ourselves from Britain then at that point in time they were already working within our government They were already in our conversations in the Federalist Papers and this was some of the problems that Jefferson and Madison saw
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But the Treaty of Verona took place in 1822 and The British Monarch and Pope secretly agreed to undermine the American system of government via The Treaty of Verona The British Monarch breaches the Treaty of Gent and both the Pope and the King secretly breached their trust as international trustees They set out on a covert action and issued letters of marquee and reprisal and marked us as enemies in war time to the members of the BAR Association allowing them to act as foreign agents on American soil and as privateers free to plunder American commerce therein the reason for the 13th Amendment which disappeared and did not permit anyone to hold an office of any kind of a trust if they had (Titles of Nobility) well they came in as Esquires A Title If they held a Title The Title in itself isn’t the problem It’s what was represented by the Title in itself The Esquires They were taught in They were taught Civil Law and the whole process was to destroy Common Law They had done that in England They were working for that for a long time and they were trying to do that here in the United States at the same time and that’s how they were trying to assault us by assaulting our Constitution our founding documents to assault our Common Law To bring in the minions of the New World Order because they were around back then They’ve been around for a long time and They were bringing in the minions in order to control the whole process and bring this nation down and underneath their thumb The answer to the Treaty was the Monroe Doctrine That was in 1823 Monroe followed Adams’ advice and laid-out an independent course for the United States declaring four major points in his December 2 1823 Address to Congress He made four basic statements
The United States would not get involved in European affairs
The United States would not interfere with existing European Colonies in the Western Hemisphere
No other nation could form a new colony in the Western Hemisphere
If a European nation tried to control or interfere with a nation in the Western Hemisphere the United States would view it as a hostile act against this nation
The Monroe document had come into effect numerous times after the 1823 when it was laid down by President Monroe on Adams’ advice In his Monroe document he said that the people of the West are henceforth not to be considered as subjects for future colonization by any European powers and we have protected that with the exercising the Monroe document and looking at it as an act of war a hostile act Treason by enemies foreign and domestic In 1871 we had the Organic Act created a foreign state within a state within a city forming a corporation called The United States Inc owned by foreign interests moved in and shoved the original Constitution into the dust bin They call this a conspiracy theory This is a conspiracy fact and we have the papers to prove it We’re not going to produce these papers here but we will post those up on our website 28 USC §3002 15(a) definition the United States means a Federal corporation In 1871 in an act of high treason the 41st Congress acted without Constitutional authority an act of fraud conspiracy and subversion against the United States of America attempting to depose our covenant and our Creator and thereby establishing a totalitarian government unaccountable to We the sovereign people under foreign control behind which the conspiratorial erosion of our Constitution began This transformed our unalienable rights to civil rights our republic to a democracy the united states to a corporation and the laws of nature’s god to civil and criminal laws which have their roots in Babylon This placed the united states under the fiction of law and as long as the people believe the fiction to be law it is it’s a state of mind at this point but nevertheless it was right here at the end of the 1800s and coming into the 1900s the 20th Century is when they really started to stack all of this different acts which they used to construct their whole process to bring us under the control They built a Statutory prison that we the people have been living in for quite some time
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The original 13th Amendment 1876 is when it disappeared The treasonous British BAR and their esquires minions of the New World Order manipulated the constitutionally ignorant Congress to conspire to supplant the law in exchange for money and power placing themselves in positions of honor that was forbidden them by the original 13th Amendment that was ratified in 1819 We have the papers and we also have the record kept by Congress that this was actually ratified State-by-State The original 13th Amendment ratified in 1819 and concealed in 1876 which carries an enforceable strict penalty Example inability to hold office and loss of citizenship That BAR with loss of citizenship for holding a title of honor called esquire that was the 13th Amendment This still holds weight because lawyers the American BAR Association the ABA they do have the word esquire attached to them when you become a BAR attorney they attach themselves and what it represents is their education They have been educated as the minions of the New World Order to destroy this nation and anything of any importance including your medical needs is controlled by lawyers – Lawyers control everything They control absolutely everything They control our government You get into a discussion and a disagreement with some bureaucrat next thing you know you’re talking to a lawyer because they’re not talking They have a duty to speak but they’re not talking and the lawyers come up and defend them and crush you This is what it said If any citizen of the United States shall accept claim receive or retain any title of nobility or honor from any emperor king prince or foreign power such person shall cease to be citizen of the United States and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or property under them 1878 Seventy-five lawyers established the American BAR Association ABA was founded on August 21 1878 in an act of high treason 100 BAR attorneys from 21 states and the District of Columbia met in Saratoga Springs New York to establish the American BAR Association the minions of the New World Order of the ages Since that first meeting the ABA has worked in the shadows infiltrating our government our courts our churches our institutions and our media demoralizing our children all in an effort to expunge our Common Law and replace it with civil law also known as Babylonian law Justinian law or Roman law The legal profession as we know it today barely existed at the time Today the ABA is one of the world’s largest professional organizations with nearly 400,000 members and more than 3,500 entities Today the ABA holds a monopoly over the minds of the Federal and State Judiciaries and attorneys that practice law in our courts Law schools are nationally accredited by the American BAR Association and graduates of these schools may generally sit for the BAR exam in any state There are 204 ABA accredited law schools There are 31 law schools that have not been approved by the American BAR Association Some states permits graduates of these schools to take the BAR examination or will admit to their BAR a graduate of a non ABA approved law school who has been admitted to the BAR of another state most states do not
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The ABA schools in an act of treason teach that in law Common Law also known as Judicial precedence or judge made law or case law is the body of law derived from judicial decisions of courts and similar tribunals claiming that the defining characteristic of Common Law is that it arises as precedence and we saw that in the court case that we were listening to earlier tonight The Federal case again YouTube Today with almost a half a million BAR members 80,000 of them are working in Washington D.C. I should read that again (repeats) They are controlling our government ultimately They have perverted the rule of law deprived we the citizen people sovereign people of due process and have supplanted our Article 3 courts with jurisdictions unknown In 1910 conspiracy at Jekyll Island In November 1910 in act of treason six men Nelson Aldridge Abram Andrew Henry Degerson Arthur Shelton Frank Van De Lip and Paul Warburg met at Jekyll Island club off the coast of Georgia to write a plan to reform the nation’s banking system The meeting and its purpose were closely guarded secrets and participants did not admit that the meeting occurred until 1930s but the plan written on Jekyll Island laid a foundation that would eventually be the Federal Reserve system in 1913 we have the Federal Reserve Act the un constitutional Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913 gave control of America’s economy to a private corporation owned by foreign bankers who answer to no one and regulate the value of worthless notes of debt called the dollar robbed we the people of our gold and bankrupt America a conspiracy among Paul Warburg Edward Mandel House Woodrow Wilson J.P. Morgan Benjamin Strong Otto Kahn and the Rockefeller family the Rothschild family and other European and American bankers which resulted in the founding of the US Federal Reserve system which resulted in the takeover of the US economy on behalf of the oligarchs The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 defies Article 1 Section 8 ¶ 5 of the United States Constitution by creating a central bank of issue for the United States World War One the agriculture depression of 1920 The Great Depression of 1929 were brought about by international bankers’ interests in order to profit from conflicts and economic instability 1913 the 16th Amendment was never ratified and I repeat everything I’m saying right here tonight we have the documents to prove every single thing we’re saying and we will post them on our website and we’re going to create a page so when we do these PowerPoint to post on YouTube We’ll probably put a reference to these PowerPoint to the documents 1913 16th Amendment was never ratified The 16th Amendment which only appears to create an Income tax an act of extortion and sponsor of debtor prison via a slave tax in direct violation of the Constitution Article 1 Section 9 Clause 5 which states No capitation or other direct tax shall be laid unless in proportion to the census or enumerated herein before directed to be taken The only way they can put a capitation tax on the people it has to be uniform across the nation Let’s say they want to tax people ten dollars a year so every state would have ‘x’ amount of people in it and I guess they would use the census for that how many people in the state $10 times how many people the amount of tax that the state has to come up with It cannot be directly to the people They can collect those taxes and get those monies in lawful ways and then deliver to the Federal government for the purpose of supporting the Federal government
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They have that power and authority to do that They have never exercised that but these people have taken advantage of that idea and created a tax which is a slave tax on the people which is direct and that’s a problem 1913 the 17th Amendment Treason The 17th Amendment destroyed the checks and balances of powers in violation of the Constitution Article 5 which states No state without its consent shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the senate The 16th (17th) Amendment removed the state representation in Washington giving the senate to the people who already had representation in Congress thereby depriving states of its equal suffrage Article 5 which makes is clear that no state shall be deprived of its equal suffrage Their say The senate plays an important role of the control of the government That’s where they decide the judges All of the people that are appointed by the President has to go before the senate to be approved Congress has nothing to do with that This is a state issue and they took that away from the states and gave it to the people who don’t have the knowledge or ability to make those decisions That is up to the governor and the legislators of every one of these states The power and sharing power ultimately the Federal government has a certain power broken up into three branches The balance of power according to the Constitution is the Federal government the states and the people all three and we the people ultimately rule over the top we can change this any time we want we can change anything we want we can add and correct we can alter we can get rid of people We’re looking to get rid of all these judges that are just ruling against the people in opposition to the Constitution failing to uphold their duties and Oaths that they took to uphold the Constitution They have distorted word meanings They change word meanings making things mean something that it does not If people accept these things as they have then that’s reality for them and only education is going to change their mind and bring these people to the realization of the power and authority that the people really do have to take and exercise to control 100 per cent of our government through the Committeeman to control the political process 100 per cent with the power to recall With the Grand Juries and Trial Juries through Administration of that the people should have total control of that and make sure because the people have the power and control they can indict and then they can judge them in a court of law and make a decision the power of nullification This is government by and for the people We don’t consent to government just by voting That’s not how we consent to government we try to choose our representatives that way but we are not a democracy we may use a democratic process to elect our representatives and our leaders but we are a republic governed by law and that law is the law of the land and we read that a littler earlier this is the law of the land the Constitution law and Equity We chose to be judged by law not Equity not Civil law not Babylonian law not Justinian law not Roman law but by law the law of God the law written in the hearts of men that’s the law that we chose to be judged by and they have robbed us of that 100 per cent robbed us of that Every Jury is stacked Every Jury is tainted Every Grand Jury is stacked and tainted and controlled Every one of them Once in a while they figure out something wrong Once in a while someone brings up the point Hey this is our government We have the power of nullification and when that Jury starts to get to that knowledge they become what’s called what they call a runaway Grand Jury or that Jury comes to the knowledge in a courtroom and realization We can nullify all this stuff We don’t have to agree to this stuff because that judge tells us so and not guilty you see the power of the people We are judged by our peers and this is the law
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When 12 individuals who are coming in with a vow to God with a sense of honor justice and mercy make decisions on these cases we can rest assured the probability of a mistake is very slim (repeats) Not impossible but rare in my opinion If twelve individuals are truly looking with their hearts to decide what’s going on and what should be done in this case they will get it right 1922 BAR attempted to abolish Grand Juries and that ran all the up until 1939 Here in New York as a matter-of-fact they had a convention trying to change that and it turned on them and ended up with the people saying For instance The Habeas Corpus will never be nullified They attempted to abolish the Grand Juries; also Habeas Corpus New York said No That will never happen In March 1922 in an act of treason The New York County Association of Criminal BAR announced that it planned a vigorous statewide campaign to abolish the Grand Jury institution Former District Attorney Robert Elder called upon the public prosecutors to take the initiative and replacing the inefficiency ignorance and traditional bias of a Grand Jurist Just think That’s what they’re saying about the American people That they’re inefficient ignorant and traditionally they are biased Because we believe in God so that’s a problem for them especially with Roe vs Wade but anyway this is the very same words they used or similar words shall I say really Similar words ignorance is being one of them when they decided to put on Rule 2 and get rid of Common law Natural law because it was too destructive The people can’t handle that kind of power That’s their attitude and that’s what they say and you can read about this right up on their website The United States Supreme Court has this on their website and we refer to it in our cases To that page Testifying before the Committee of Law Enforcement of the American BAR Association he observed that a judge or some other man learned in Statutes should participate in Grand Jury hearings In Minnesota attorney Paul J Thompson urged his state to adopt the Wisconsin system of prosecution upon the order of District Attorney In 1922 judge Roscoe Pound and Felix Frankfurter conducted a survey of criminal justice in Cleveland and added the weight of expert testimony to those who sought to eliminate the use of Grand Juries Pound and Frankfurter reported that Juries were inefficient and unnecessary since Trial Courts politically driven men of course were quite capable of protecting Americans against executive tyranny Isn’t that something that these lawyers would protect our unalienable rights when they have done nothing but continually destroy them and they’re being taught in law school that the Common Law has been abrogated and their understanding of Common Law is when they refer to it is really again court case decisions Trial court case decisions you know court case decisions in the Appellate Court and the US Supreme Court That’s their Common law that they claim and that they try to use but Juries were inefficient and unnecessary We don’t need Juries you know they’ll decide for or the lawyers will decide our innocent and our guilt and that’s where they were heading and that’s how close it came to almost losing it all We’ve lost too much already but we almost lost it all Thank God we didn’t and we continue today 1933 the Wars Powers Act The Wars Powers Act also referred to as the War powers resolution or The War Powers Resolution of 1973 is a Federal law that governs the President’s power to bring the US into armed conflict without first obtaining authorization from Congress as required under Article 1 Section 8 Clause 11 Now of course the President has that power to defend this nation but they certainly don’t have the power to run a war and continue in that war and Congress should never support that kind of a war but that’s where we’ve been ever since World War Two which was the last war ever declared by the United States They’ve been operating under the War Powers Act
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1933 The Emergency Banking Act The United States Federal government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act on March 9 1933 Let me repeat that (repeats) They decided They had done this covertly 1934 Federal Reserve An Astounding Exposure Now this is referencing back to the Federal Reserve Act 1913-1916 This was put onto the record by Congressman McFadden In an astounding exposure Congressman McFadden on the Federal Reserve Corporation remarks in Congress 1934 on May 23 1933 Congressman Louis T McFadden brought formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve bank system The controller of the currency and the Secretary of the United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts including but not limited to Conspiracy Fraud Unlawful conversion and treason He said and I quote Mr Chairman we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks hereinafter called the Fed The United States has been ransacked and pillaged Our structures have been gutted and only the walls are left standing The Petitions for Articles of Impeachment was thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee and yet has yet to be acted upon 1934 Rules Enabling Act gave the United States Supreme Court the authority to write their own rules In 1938 US Supreme Court betrayed the people on September 16 1938 a day that will live in infamy eight of 9 men one resigned the United States Supreme Court steered by the subversive ABA authored the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure particularly Rule 2 thereby committing an act of treason deserving of the ultimate penalty Natural law has to offer Their evil reprehensible covert exploit is responsible for multimillions of deaths and destroyed lives They may have escaped justice in this world but we trust that they will meet with God’s wrath when they pass or they have met with God’s wrath when they passed So they came together and created the United State Supreme Court created the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and in Rule 2 which abrogated Common Law and every Supreme Court since has allowed that to rest and stay and sit as law Rule as law in order to change us over to Civil law they’re all guilty of treason every single one of them and they all know what they’ve done of course we keep giving them the olive branch we’re giving them that opportunity and once the deep state is gone that olive branch will no longer be available to these people and we will I’m sure go forward to do many indictments and we’re going to have to consider some of the hardest indictments and that will be indictments against United States Supreme Court justices That’s something that may have to be considered but we’ll see what happens once the deep state is gone and what they’re going to do with what we’ve been doing in the courts for the past so many years They are dishonorable the individuals the judges Supreme Court They are dis honorable justice James Clark McReynolds dis honorable justice Louis Vandees dis honorable justice Pierce Butler dis honorable justice Hollen Ebstone dis honorable justice Charles Evan Hughes and dis honorable justice Owen Roberts dis honorable justice Hugh Black and dis honorable Stanley Forman Reid Those are the Supreme Court justice that allowed to go through the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure
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Now I can only guess at this point that the rules of the court prior to that were the rules of Common Law The rules of Common Law also they should be guiding the equity courts I can understand them working out procedures of evidence and things of that nature They have gone far beyond that 1944 Breton Woods Agreement United States surrendered to the centralized banking system the prevailing economic system of the world is based on Breton Woods Agreement which was established after the Second World War while all the countries that the economics of the world would boost and the people would have more money in their hands little did they know that it was just a plan to destroy the currencies of the world to make the dollar the currency anchor of the world and of course that eventually connected with oil In 1947 CIA and NSA creation of a national police surveillance grid 1948 The United Nations is an inter-governmental organization that promotes international cooperation to create and maintain international order The UN was established in an effort to establish a one world government The UN also supports population control by supporting government programs that promote forced abortions and coercive sterilizations 1950 Report on the National Lawyers Guild revealed an ABA Communist plot 1954 The Dodd Report Norman Dodd investigated for the Reese Committee on foundations concerning un-American activities in government The findings of the Reese Committee were very revealing It was found out that the big foundations were promoting inter-nationalism and collectivism and ultimately that’s Communism or Marxism or any of the -isms by their subversive funding activities they pose a clear threat to American Democracy and way of life of the American people The foundations were monumental in shaping the education and foreign policy of the United States and not only this but the foundations had their presence in all areas of society and in some areas had become more powerful than the Federal government Research and experimental stations were established at selected Universities notably Columbia Stanford and Chicago Here some of the worst mischief in recent education was born In these Rockefeller and Carnegie established vineyards working many of the principle characters in the story of the suborning or American education Here foundations nurtured some of the most ardent academic advocates of upsetting the American system and supplanting it with Socialist states 1971 Southern Poverty Law Center They have a couple of papers on NLA In an act of high treason and lies the SPLC intelligence report proclaiming to be the nation’s preeminent periodical monitoring the radical right in the United States is fueling all government agencies and police departments into believing that anyone that uses specific words like Militia Sovereign Oath Keepers Constitution Patriots and even Founding Fathers to name just a few are armed radicals and dangerous cop killers whose names are put on a terrorist watch list This often caused police to over react with excessive force and on a few occasions respond by SWAT when these words are used in traffic stops Must of the over reaction that fuels the police comes from that spewed forth the lies of the SPLC to unsuspecting law enforcement agencies and departments The SPLC is the arm of the BAR whose purpose is to incite violence by the Federal agents and police upon we the sovereign people who are trying to make sense of our out-of-control Federal Judiciary and be free
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1993 James Traficans bankruptcy speech Speaker representative James Trafican Jr from Ohio addressing the House revealing the bankruptcy of the United States into the Congressional record All United States offices officials and departments are now operating within a defacto status in a name only under Emergency War Powers With the constitutional Republican form of government now dissolved they decided to get rid of it remember we the people ordained and established we made a covenant with God They had no power no authority to do anything except obey our will and yet they have decided to discard it to get rid of it (repeats) our now operating within a defacto status in a name only under Emergency War Powers with the constitutional Republican form of government now dissolved the receivers of the bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States This new form of government is known as a Democracy being an established Socialist Communist order under a new governor for America 2001 Homeland Security Police State Surveillance Grid reached its maturity 2013 John Kerry signed the United Nations Arms Treaty gave up our rights to have weapons to have a gun Today outcome based Socialist education keep the slaves ignorant and we indeed have become slaves to these people and we’re waking up today and we need to do something about this President Trump said that he was elected to return the power back to the people now the people have to receive that power the problem is – is they don’t know how They’re slaves They’re uneducated in these areas They have no clue on what to do therein the reason for National Liberty Alliance therein the reason for the book Government by Consent Anybody who reads that book has everything they need to know of course you can further educate yourself and really get a lot more We have a lot on our website on that but anyway Here is the difference and the problems and I’ve been looking into Anna Von Reitz’s plan and this is up on her website She appeared on the scene one year after National Liberty Alliance started its movement with the Grand Juries and within a year after that all of-a-sudden she appeared on the scenes and she appeared well-funded She seemed to be everywhere and it seems everywhere we went we found her or people representing what she’s doing and part of her movement She’s teaching a lot of the stuff that we just talked about She has some major faults in her thinking and conclusions We’re going to look at those and people are going to see this very quickly and clearly This is from her website 2014 that is when she seems to have seized control of the sovereign citizen movement as soon as she came out there was really no leader there was a lot of people talking about this Gerard and I learnt a lot of this stuff and also did file a paper making my Declaration of my sovereignty and filed it in my county Many other people did too but when it came down to getting rid of your driver’s license and social security number not being able to vote and getting rid of your citizenship that became a bit radical None of those things are necessary or make any control Anna Von Reitz’s plan is to organize 50 jural assemblies up and running fully populated She’s looking for numerous people in every state and is nowheres near as organized as they would like to be We’re far more organized and we have touched all 50 states got people involved and are really trying to get the power of the people at the grassroots to step up and take control of their government
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That’s our purpose to do that She’s looking to do the same thing and to call them jural assemblies and to populate them with people who have corrected their political status actual state nationals and state citizens by correcting the record and this identifying the people as US Citizens by filing a Declaration terminating your citizenship and therefore these are the points that she is making and this is on her website You will no longer be subject to Federal Statutes so if you do this go get rid of your license social security card make a Declaration separate yourself from the government and by the way once you’re no longer a citizen guess what you can be deported it doesn’t matter that you’re a national because you’re no longer a citizen of the United States That possibility exists and you’ll be an individual man or woman without a nation They’re claiming if you do those things you will no longer be subject to Federal Statutes You will become exempt from paying Federal Income Taxes You will no longer worry about Federal agents breaking down your doors You will possess your homes and lands and soils as freeholders not tenants You won’t pay any mortgages utilities or property taxes You will have no reason to ever visit their courts You will be in control of your own lives You will sleep sound in your beds again and I can tell you this is not true I know people who have done this and are in jail They’ve gotten their doors broken down because they had done exactly what she’s saying and anybody who thinks that they’re going to make a claim in a court You can see what we’re dealing with those people who were in our earlier meeting today concerning against a Federal judge where we played the recording of that judge and what took place in that courtroom if you think that – that judge you’re going to make these claims and click your heels and find yourself transported into the courts of justice before a judge like that well that’s insane I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn anyway these are the promises and they’re false promises that are never going to happen By the way we built these courts and paid for these courts We pay to keep the lights on and their salaries We own their courts and they owe their obedience to us We’re the masters They’re the servants but they think the other way because they’ve twisted words and changed things around Step 1 Give us your US Citizenship Step 2 Re-charter the Federal states in other words re-write our Constitution Can you imagine Who Where is Jefferson Where is Franklin Where is Madison Where is George Washington Where are all these people that could possibly re-write our Constitution Our Constitution is a great document This is part of their plan to re-charter the Federal states Change the Constitution in a radical way Hold a Continental Congress which we have already done that Only the people can save the Republic We the peoples’ response to the treason What we just spoke about on that one page really lays out her plan but they do use all the things we spoke about up until that page concerning all of these different acts that government has done whether it be the Rules Enabling Act and the execution of those rules and all of that is true That is used by the sovereign citizen but their conclusion is wrong Once you start to go against them in a way that the sovereign citizens are moving to do that In that way that position that direction you’re really giving them credibility
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Because you’re acknowledging them as some power and authority We take a different approach a different focus It’s very simple It’s fraud and treason and they need to pay for it It’s that simple It doesn’t get any worse than that We have Traficant who went up against them and what happened there’s a possibility he was taken out Another individual back in the 30s his life they came after him 2-3 times the third time they succeeded they killed him because he laid on the record the truth of what was going on he laid the fraud out Now we have a window of opportunity Never have we had such a window of opportunity to be able to step up and talk as bold as we talk about because of what President Trump is doing to take out the deep state and when that deep state is gone we the people have that opportunity to take back control of our nation and if we fail to do so we may very well lose that and it will never be available again That’s what National Liberty Alliance is all about In 2002 Truth in Taxation held by we the people in Washington DC concluded that our courts of law are closed and this was covered by C-Span In 2004 we held a conference to restore constitutional order held by we the people this also was covered by C-Span We have that on video and in writing on our website I talked to Robert Schultz who led that whole process and he gave me permission 2008 The US Supreme Court denied answering the question concerning The right of redress of grievances Can you imagine that This took effect from the work that was done by Robert Schultz in 2002 – 2004 which led up to him suing the courts and with the question and took it all the way up to the United States Supreme Court concerning the right of redress of grievances in the First Amendment and the United States Supreme Court as all of the other courts below them refused to answer Think about that 2009 the Third Continental Congress they met elected delegates from 48 states met in St Charles Illinois and produced the Articles of Freedom We have a copy of that on our website 2010 Articles of Freedom delegated served on United States government all three branches and in all 50 states 2013 National Liberty Alliance was founded in May 2013 The purpose of NLA is to provide an online national venue where the people can organize communicate and learn the science of government by consent to restore our Republic As the swamp is drained and power removed from the deep state a vacuum will occur and if we the people do not educate ourselves and fill these positions of power our servants again will and it will only be a matter of time before we find ourselves back under their tyranny again 2015 Common Law Grand Jury served a Writ Quo Warranto on the Federal government that means cease and desist and ultimately we’re talking about the Inc 2016 Extraordinary Action We filed by the Common Law Grand Jury with over 100 documents and we were met with silence and we continue to file and sue and we are nailing the papers to the door
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2016 draining of the swamp President Trump started dismantling the deep state August 14 2019 The Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury secured a docket number in the United States District Court for the Northern District of New York to be under judicial auspices and to act as a depository for papers served upon governments elected and appointed servants filed Habeas Corpuses Joinders and indictments of judges and other judicial officers and have been doing so since August 14 2019 On August 17 2019 we filed a Decision and Order and Declaration to Restore the Law of the Land September 3 2019 we filed a Decision and Order concerning the merging of equity and law where they claim to have abrogated Common Law and thereby our Declaration of Independence gone United States Constitution gone Bill of Rights gone The only problem is people don’t know it September 9 2019 we filed an indictment against Judge Kahn He kept trying to close this court down and prevent us from filing our papers to be under the auspices of the court We would have continued even if he would have seceded He has succeeded in keeping it off PACER but there are receiving our papers They are being filed and we are filing it also with Barr and the President We also are serving copies onto the United States Supreme Court for their edification September 16 2019 filed Fake Law and Fake Courts We made it clear on the record September 25 2019 we filed Writ Mandamuses concerning Federal Rule 2 September 30 2019 we filed Writ Mandamus concerning information on the Republic We’re not a Democracy October 7 2019 we filed Writ Mandamuses November 16 1029 we filed an Amendment to Move for Cause We were suing the Governor and the Congress here in New York State for trying to enlarge gun control here in New York and we moved that into our court case December 17 2019 We filed concerning acts of treason concerning Federal Rule 2 February 19 1920 we again filed Writ Quo Warranto and others concerning the Second Amendment April 6 2020 we filed a Review of the Record April 6 2020 we filed IRS a Writ Quo Warranto Since then we’ve filed others On August 31 2020 we filed Writ Mandamus to the Supreme Court of the United States We’ve filed other papers since there There’s a lot of paperwork we’ve been working with People should really get involved and look at Grand Jury and see the Actions we’re involved in Only the people can save the Republic and this is our plan to save the Republic Educate the people where as Thomas Jefferson said (quotes) It seems like Donald Trump is heading down this road and we need to connect with him concerning that and have participation in that to make sure they don’t have any of their pabulum going into the education of our children This is what National Liberty Alliance is all about to bring this education the proper education We also are looking to bring this into the schools and the book Government by Consent it is so important that people get involved in our Campaign for Constitutional Sheriffs on our front page If we don’t educate our sheriffs and ourselves We’ve got over three thousand sheriffs in the United States and 3,000 people educate themselves and 3,000 sheriffs educate themselves you’ve got 6,000 people pressing towards the Constitution to be applied not only in our states but also in our Federal courts and that’s a powerful movement and then during that process we will be rebuilding the Militia and we will be working with people to teach them to become the Committeemen to take over the political process to have the power for recall and the people to take over the judicial process through administrations for Grand Jury and the Trial Jury to make sure that they are properly informed and not tainted or stacked and that we do have courts of justice open and the power of nullification in the people with the people understanding their true place in government
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People are part of the government We have government by consent and yet as ignorant slaves we have no clue on how to exercise that but we have it now and people need to do something about it NLA mission is to empower the people on a grassroots level in order to have government by consent again thereby taking back our judicial and political processes resurrecting the elected Committeeman in every state and building Jury administrations composed of five people in each county I added a person because we do need a secretary to control all of the workings of the Court Administrators and to work with them so there will be 5 people one must be a secretary educated as one NLA mission (repeats) The duty of these administrations is to orientate counsel assist in the writing of the indictments informations assure untainted petit and grand juries and be the investigative body for the grand jury Our government structure that our founding fathers created is still intact and once President Trump drains the swamp we the people must take control of the two power structures the judicial and the political and replace our servants Any of these servants any of these people who are not willing to obey the law at that point and to protect our unalienable rights by the oath that they have taken then we need to indict and or remove them in other ways we can remove them through recall that takes too long though these people that have been involved in this are evil they have broken the law and need to be held accountable so therefore indictments is the proper remedy for this 18 US Code §2 principles Whoever commits an offense against the United States aids abets counsel commands induces or procures its commission is punishable as a principal Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense against the United States is punishable as a principal So anyone involved in any of this is punishable as a principal The defacto government holds power because the people believe that the fiction is reality A proper education will reveal the truth and thereby empower the people They will awaken to the fiction and demand a reality We the people have been providentially entrusted via Natural law to dispense justice and were provided legal recourse to address the criminal conduct of the judiciary and our representatives We the people have the unbridled right by law and in law to impanel our own grand juries and present true bills of information indictments and presentments to the court of justice which is then required to commence a criminal proceeding under Natural law and we have been doing so since 2015
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When injustice become law resistance becomes duty Thomas Jefferson We have a duty to do this (John reads) 18 US Code §2 principles (repeats) They’re all guilty If we were to indict every guilty person in our government Washington DC would be a ghost town Our state capitals would be ghost towns but we are offering them the olive branch Some of them it doesn’t matter what they do because they’ve done such terrible acts and destruction they’re not going to be able to escape judgment but many of them have been stuck between a rock and a hard place and trying to figure out what to do and how to get out of it and if they see and take opportunity to what’s coming up for them they’ll get out of it but other than that they will have to definitely pay the price President Trump said In America the people govern the people rule and the people are sovereign I was elected not to take power but to give power to the American people where it belongs The problem is that the people don’t know how to take and implement that power Thomas Jefferson said I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves they must take control and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform the discretion by education This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power and if a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization it is expecting what never was and never will be for an enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a Republic Self-government is not possible unless the citizens are educated sufficiently to enable them to exercise oversight Anybody who thinks that they can exercise these types of things without a proper education is fooling themselves If they think that their rights are going to be protected that they’re going to be able to exercise their unalienable rights and their children is going to be able to do that also if they don’t take control of this government they’re only filling themselves up with falsities it’s just not going to happen so it is therefore imperative that the nation see to it that a suitable education be provided to all its citizens Educate and inform the whole mass of the people they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty By educating our children and participating in our government action taking control getting rid of the politics and the political process the word politics does identify what the science of the political process but politics the word we see and understand is just evil one side against the other Let’s go back and listen to what George Washington had to say in his Farewell Address He made it very clear that parties do nothing but destroy We don’t need parties There is no right There is no left There is just law and order or disorder What are they fighting for They have no constitutional authority to make all these bickerings for power and authority to put one above the other they don’t have that power they don’t have that real authority to do that we don’t need them to be doing that we need to just make sure they obey the Constitution and if there is a deficiency found then they can get together and talk about it and see if they can work out a solution and if necessary a constitutional convention for that issue
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The mission and purpose of NLA is to provide an online national venue where the people can organize communicate and learn the science of government by consent and exercise it at the grassroots in all 3,134 American counties If the righteous many do not confront the wicked few then evil will triumph President Trump That brings us to the end Jan or Terry
Jan: We do have the Red Pill Expo October 10 and 11 that’s a really interesting group of speakers they have about 20 and it’s sponsored by G Edward Griffin the author The Creature of Jekyll Island and the meeting is to be held on Jekyll Island He’s going to talk more about The Creature is Wounded and Dangerous Then we have Del Bigtree who is a TV producer of the movie Vaxxed He’s a world leader in the vaccination safety movement He’s going to talk about the coming vaccines will save none but will injure or kill millions it’s true we are winning the war against forced vaccinations David Icke he’s a Brit he had a meeting in Trafalgar Square August 29 and got tens of thousands of people to come there He will be live by remote and you can ask any questions you might have of him We have Andrew Kaufman MD going to talk about the pandemic fraud runs deeper than you think If the public knew that the underlying germ theory is wrong there would be no vaccine sales Then we have Jon Rappaport an author and investigative reporter he’s been exposing deep politics since 1982 that’s a long time His website is called No More Fake News His topic is going to be millions will die from the coronal virus again the cult of covid like all cults is based on lies and blind faith We have Cary Rivera and for those of you that have kids or know people autism she has developed a routine protocol procedure what-you-want to call it and has helped 1,500 children recover from autism so far and she’s using a treatment that is safe and cheap Alex will explain how fear of an imaginary pandemic
John: Jan pull that information concerning the autism and that individual’s name website or any information you can and we should put something on the right side so that it’s on every page of our website concerning the opportunity for people especially children that there is a cure Go ahead Get that information to me to post
Gerard: She’s a homeopath but I think she’s using MMS
Jan: Right
John: That’s great
Gerard: Just so you know
Jan: She’s been using MMS for many years I’ve been following her for about five years
John: Let’s try to get a communications with her maybe she will talk with us and we can work together with some things See if you can contact her but go ahead
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Jan: You can livestream all of the speakers $45 for 60 days
John: Griffin with Schultz and numerous other people and they discussed the Continental Congress the Third Continental Congress that met in 2009 went out to Jekyll Island
Jan: Mickey Willie is going to tell his story how recovering Socialist came to produce the documentary Plandemic most panned and viewed internet film in history Brad Wiecks MD is to talk about hydroxychlorine quinine and other treatments for covid or whatever you want to call it that are safe effective and cheap The information is in the newsletter You can see all the other speakers they have a really great combination of people
John: We owe a tremendous amount of gratitude for the work of Griffin – Griffin started his first documentary came out in 1959 he’s come up with about 30 we have all up on our website He did his homework to reveal to the people all these conspiracies to get them out when YouTube came around
Jan: There is one question it’s about the lawsuit It says on the lawsuit we claim to be the Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury How can we then be the Plaintiff also How does the court allow this
John: We addressed this last week It is a big question We are not the tribunal in this court We are the people coming up with the complaint and the tribunal will be a trial jury a jury of 12 people that need to be drawn ultimately from our membership we have over 9,000 people we’re going to look for 12 individuals to serve as jurists we can’t be the jury we are coming in on behalf of the people making the case against YouTube and Google and Facebook and Twitter We’re making the case for the people against them and it will be up to the trial jury to make their decision on that we’re not playing both roles that would be unjust
Jan: We’re probably up to four pages now I have
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John: He’s okay
(John introduces Brent)
Brent Allan Winters is the author of Excellence of Common Law—in Light of History, Nature & Scripture His website is www.commonlawyer.com
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Brent: Thanks John this is Brent Allan Winters commonlawyer.com www.commonlawyer.com well lawyers seem to be one of the focuses of discussion here I’m going to read you a section – Section 3.10.2 Title Character of the Common Lawyer (repeats) from the book Excellence of Common Law Comparative law text comparing the law of the land our Common Law with the law of the city also called the civil law Before the 14th Century common lawyers that means lawyers in Common Law countries law of the land countries as opposed to law of the city countries and there was only one Common Law country in the world back in the 14th Century and that was the island of Britain that was it America had not gotten her motor up and running yet to amount to much anything neither had Canada Both Canada and the United States are Common Law countries now and then Australia New Zealand and then England Britain Those five Those 5 major countries are the only Common Law countries in the world There are other smaller places just as important in and of themselves The Bahamas Belize in other words all the former British Colonies Former parts of the British Empire Common Law countries India – India is not a Common Law country but it uses the Common Law quite a bit because that is a Colony of India All of the rest of the world every country is under some form of the law of Babylon the law of the city and most often most of those other countries are under the Code of Justinian the old code of the Roman Empire that was compiled under the auspices and at the behest of the emperor Justinian To sum up there are only two traditions only two traditions of religion law and government in the world the law of the land and the law of the city and then there’s all the variations in between but fundamentally there are only 2 and variations in between on the spectrum Before the 14th Century lawyers in Common Law countries called themselves serventes ad ligum or something like that – That’s Latin for servants at law They called themselves servants at law Lawyers in law of the city countries like France and all the countries of South America all the Communist countries view themselves as servants of the state That’s another way to demonstrate the difference Not that we don’t see eye to eye with these other countries no We’re looking in opposite directions We’re opposites not just a little bit different Opposites at the foundation
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and that spells all the difference about every other characteristic of those two traditions of religion law and government During the 14th Century in England at about the time Common Law courts stopped using the law of French common lawyers begin to call themselves by the English term for feudal sergeantry What’s feudal sergeantry That means feudal servants Feudal servants and they called themselves therefore sergeants at law What’s a sergeant at law or they say sergeant That’s an old word that means servants – Servants at law We have in the Congress Master at Arms In the Naval Service there’s always a man or a group of men called Master at Arms Servants at law A Master at Arms well he’s an enforcer Arms Weapons A sergeant at law is a servant of law at The preposition at denotes where he is what he’s doing for example and this was the use of the preposition at in those phrases we have retained it but not anywhere else A good example I like this example because it’s something that really happened A demonstration of the use of the preposition at in the phrase servant at law Back in the 14th Century a man by the name of John Whycliffe for the first time translated the entire Bible into English He didn’t have access to the manuscripts of the original tongues The Hebrew never make of the older testament and the Greek of the newer testament so he used the Latin translation from about 400 AD that’s all he had so he translated it in English but he translated John 1:1 and 2 like this remember we’re demonstrating the use of the preposition at in old English which we still use today Master at Arms and Servant at law He translates this way In the beginning was ye word and ye word was at God (repeats) and of course when you read on through the second verse he says our modern translation we say In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God He was in the beginning of him well who is he He’s talking about Jesus Christ Jesus Christ In English John Whycliffe translates that the word was Jesus Christ was at God Now the word at in the old English had an idea with it that means with the English translation say the word was with God translated in the Greek preposition so the word at has the idea of at right with if something is at me there are two ways I can think that either it’s coming at me or it’s in my presence it’s right beside me it’s right up close to me at well that’s the way they used the preposition and so these common lawyers called themselves Servants at law in other words they called themselves the right hand man or men of the Common Law doing the Common Law’s bidding Defending the Common Law Enforcing the Common Law and remember the Common Law is not a list of laws
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It is a way of life It is a path you get on It’s due process The course as the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 says The course of the Common Law It’s a way we do things not what we do but how we do it That’s the important point about our Common Law The law of the city doesn’t care how you do it just so you reach the result that the state commands through its legislation but we follow a process well Servants at law The early common lawyer’s old use of the preposition at is scarce nowadays but was customary in the 14th Century Common lawyers intended at to denote that their calling was an immediate peculiar and personal servitude to the Common Law and that means to due process Our Common Law does not include due process Our Common Law how we do things due process The course we follow in doing anything to distinguish from personal servitude to the king Common Law when that phrase was to not be a personal servant to the king or to the in that day to the Pope because the civil law lawyers called the Roman Priests that’s what a Roman Priest is he called himself a servant to the Pope Well if you’re a servant to the Pope or a servant to the dictator or a servant to the governor or a servant to some other person in government well then that person is the law to you now that’s a very dangerous position to take we just had an incident in Michigan Doctors Medical doctors sued the governor of the state of Michigan She claims she’s the governor Who knows who she is it’s all like these are weird creatures doing the things they’re doing I don’t know what they are anyway the Supreme Court ruled unanimously on one count and 4-3 on another that the governor or the person calling herself their governor as a has gone beyond the bounds of the law and they said that what she’s doing is unlawful what was her response her response was oh she said she was terribly disappointed at the Supreme Court ruling but she wasn’t going to follow it She was going to try to persuade she was going to try to persuade the court differently and she was going to keep doing what she was doing that’s the upshot of it well how does she justify that she doesn’t she just says I’m going to keep doing what I’m doing She’s too ignorant I’m convinced just listening to her she doesn’t have a clue what she’s doing she’s just a girl having fun because now she can play governor and she says wow maybe Joe Biden will win the election and he’ll appoint me to one of his big positions and I can have a wonderful career as a politician et cetera apparently somebody has promised her something because she’s acting wacko but can she do what she’s saying she’s going to do well sure as a matter of force who is going to arrest her she will just keep saying Everyone must obey my orders By the way I’ve been to Michigan hundreds of thousands of people if not millions are not obeying her orders I want to drop a footnote People talking about the ins and outs of what’s constitutional and what’s not talking about the ins and outs of what medical and empirical science says about the virus blah blah blah I’m just telling you from my part I don’t give two hoots and a holler what any of them say because I just don’t care I do not care and I refuse to participate in the buffoonery that I’ve seen and I’ve seen for decades I quit participating a long time ago You either go my way or I’ll go by myself I’m done with it I hope you feel the same way You’re not going to persuade people who are not persuadable If God does not open their eyes to the buffoonery of this so-called virus that does not exist well people say it does exist well show me one sliver of evidence that’s trustworthy that says it exists
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Well the government says it exists the health department says it exists well you’re going to say that’s trustworthy the government well the doctors the medical community says it exists you’re going to say that’s trustworthy after what they have tried to pull on you now they want to pump you full of vaccinations the pharmaceutical companies well there are exceptions to all those generalizations but friends neighbors and kin I’m not God I generalize why because that’s the prudent thing for any sensible freeman to do I see the pattern and I go with the pattern and say I’m not going there well there may be like somebody said well (haha) somebody said there’s some good policemen out there well maybe burden is on them to prove it if they’re really good why don’t they get out and quit supporting well there’s some good people wearing masks they just do it for the right reasons well there’s exceptions to every rule and of course the exception to the rule is what establishes the rule but it doesn’t swallow the rule and when I see that people in government Congressmen courts going haywire the burden then is on them to prove that they’re not part of the system and if they refuse to denounce it and get out get away from it and be their own man well I’m not interested in talking to them or paying any attention to anything they say and if you haven’t gotten there you’re not a freeman yet you’ve got to get there and it needs to be said and said over and over again well the early common lawyers’ use of the preposition at is scarce and I’ve read that I guess oh I’ve read that too one’s personal service to the king remember I must say I’m reading from Comparative law text Excellence of Common Law Section 3.10.2 the character of the common lawyer where I try to recount the history of how we got these creatures called lawyers in Common Law countries that are different from the countries of the law of the city One’s personal service to the King was called well they had a fancy Latin name for that too It was honorary such as burying his sword in armor or in battle or as serving as his champion in battle likewise the Sergeant at law’s duty and loyalty was personal and honorary but to the Majesty of the Common Law In addition this is why modern common lawyers us lawyers in Common Law countries refer to litigation in Common Law courts as an action at law – Law being the abbreviated term for Common Law and the prepositional phrase at law meaning in the personal presence of the law’s Majesty just as serventes ad lex meant in the personal service or the personal presence of the king’s majesty moreover by the title sergeant or servant at law common lawyers intended to contrast themselves with the Roman Priests serving as civil law proctors – Proctors Advocates and judges The Roman Priests by their oath has sworn to render their direct loyalty and still do by the way their direct loyalty and service to who The Pope -E -the Pope of Rome whereas the common lawyers’ oath loyalty and service were direct to the Common Law If you don’t see this distinction refuse to acknowledge this distinction you cannot understand what a Common Law country is and why we have Common Law How did it get here It came here because of the adversity between the law of the land and the law of the city the law of city represented primarily by Roman the Roman Priesthood and the law of the land the Canaan law of Rome is the Code of Justinian in its Ecclesiastic form and the law of the land by common lawyers and common lawyers arose to meet the threat of Roman Priests appointed as judges in England and using the Canaan law the Code of Justinian in their decisions They wanted to stop it because they knew if they didn’t stop it somehow their organizing against it that the Common Law would be gone and along with that freedom trial by jury the right to keep and bear arms freedom of speech freedom of religious affection the list separation of powers independence of the judiciary independence of the legislative branch independence of the executive branch and on and on
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Unlike the loyalty of the Roman Priests and the civil servant to government which was to the government of a single will whether Pope Bishop King or any other combination of men a common lawyer’s undivided loyalty was to the principals of the Common Law He was to seek commonness with other men on the objective foundation of law’s truth and never upon the subjective and shifting sands of earthbound rulers You see the contrast Is our loyalty to be to men no no a thousand times no it is to be to the will of the true sovereign and remember the will of the sovereign whoever you take to be your sovereign his will is law well our loyalty is to law The law of the land as our Constitution puts it The common lawyer that’s a lawyer in a Common Law country was to be in constant pursuit of the timeless law’s articulation of truth believing that if he keeps on seeking as said Jesus Christ he will discover discern and refine the law’s fitting application in individual instances Matthew 7:7~8 I’m quoting the Savior He said keep on asking and it shall be given to you Keep on seeking and you shall find it Translations say Ask and it shall be given Keep but that’s not what it means It’s in the present continuous action form of the verb Keep on seeking Keep on asking Do not faint says Paul the Apostle in prayer Keep doing it may feel like your prayers are bouncing off heaven and has turned to brass up there well you still keep doing it that’s your duty well let me see (haha) constant pursuit of the law Only servants at law held the title in old England order of the coif C O I F Sergeants at law were the highest rank of lawyers in Common Law England It’s still true now the term Order of the coif was another term they used for Sergeants at law and now that term in America is just used it’s a fraternity now in law schools and if you make really good grades you can be invited to belong to the Order of the Coif it doesn’t amount to much and I had to add the title Sergeant at law Order of the Coif even esquire none of those titles are hereditary (repeats) They’re like Ecclesiastic titles The title of Bishop is not hereditary of course those fellows weren’t supposed to have children anyway so it doesn’t make any difference of course they usually had dozens of children but they didn’t pass along their Ecclesiastic title Bishop whatever they were they still don’t and the same thing is true of common lawyers They don’t pass along the titles that they have received they’re not hereditary in that sense they’re not titles of nobility A candidate’s entry into the Order required approval of the Chief justice a candidate in England to get into become licensed to have permission to argue for another person before the court that required approval of the Chief justice of the court of common pleas The court of common pleas was the Chief Common Law Court in England The Chief badge of the authority bestowed by the Order of the Coif that’s the Sergeants at law was a tight fitting cap worn on the head a tight fitting cap when you look at old paintings of men from the middle ages they will have these tight fitting caps I was talking a while ago about Priests Didn’t have to worry about their titles passing onto their children because they weren’t supposed to have any and if they did have any they were bastards in other words they were born out of wedlock
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One of the most famous men born out of wedlock a Roman Priest was a fellow by the name of Erasmus Erasmus He was a Dutch Roman Priest and he was incurably Roman He was a Priest loyal to the church but he is the one that started the reformation in Europe He didn’t realize he got to thinking he was smarter than Jerome and he wanted to offer a Latin translation to the Pope that was better than Jerome’s he wanted to prove it he did but to show how good his translation was he put the Latin text on the left page and on the right page every time you turn the page on the right page he would put the text the original text in the original Greek new testament right beside it so you could compare it and see that it was more accurate than Jerome’s translation well by publishing the Greek new testament he didn’t know he was playing with matches and exceedingly dry timber and it caught fire real quick and people were saying well wait a minute this is what the Greek text says but they could look at it and study it see Why is it Jerome translated it this way or why is it so and so Priests saying this when the Greek text says this and that’s what kicked off the Protestant reformation the translations of the Bible into the native tongues of the European people and we’re still in that evolution well that’s a bad word a dangerous word to use evolution and that event is still ongoing The chief badge of authority I talked about the cap the tight fitting cap on the lawyer’s head well of course they have other ways they denote a common lawyer in England they wear those goofy looking white wigs over in England We don’t do that here fortunately and I can’t imagine how hot that would be in a hot courtroom so 80 per cent of the heat in your body you know comes out of the top of your head If you put something on top of it Oh by the way winter’s coming just remember if you get cold put a sock hat on your head that will do more to keep the heat in than about anything else you wear a coat too but if you can’t get one put a sock hat on your head Well English kings allowed members of the Order of the Coif to wear these caps in their presence (repeats) in other words common lawyers to wear these tight fitting skull hats in their presence by the way they were more like a hood they weren’t a skull cap like the Jews wear This thing went clear around your head kind of like something you would wear in the wintertime when you were cold and until the year 1553 as did Roman monks Sergeants at Law rode mules instead of horses I’m going to repeat that of course a lot of people don’t know that monks only rode Roman monks in those days only rode mules so people would know who they are They never rode horses Well these common lawyers that were organizing against them they took up riding mules too and never horses and by their habits customs and lifestyle the early servants at law become a law meant to show themselves that their devotion to the Common Law was as strong if not stronger than the Roman Priests’ loyalty to the Roman Pontiff that was the idea Therefore by their title servant at law which means hand servant to the Common Law and by their oath common lawyers were foremost for the benefit of the people and not the state God has not made people for the benefit Listen to me God has not made you for the benefit of the law but rather God has given the law for the benefit of his people How do I know Because Jesus Christ said exactly that in Mark 2:27 and he used the sabbath principle as the jumping off point when he said Man was not made of the sabbath but the sabbath the law of the sabbath was made for man Well that applies to all True law It’s for our benefit We are not for the law’s benefit however the common lawyers say that they are servants of the law in the sense that they are sworn their loyalty to the law When we take an oath in America to support and defend the Constitution of the United States we are taking an oath to what
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We’re taking an oath to a set of principles written down on paper The way government is to operate The relationships between the states government and the general government in Washington DC and between the three branches of government and the relationship between the government and us It’s a document not about what will happen but about how it’s supposed to happen The course of the Common Law and we take an oath to that When I got overseas when I was a young punk of a kid I found out real quick When we’re around people from other countries that had taken an oath to serve their country French people I remember Australians Brits primarily but the French were a little different People from the Netherlands These other people from these other countries didn’t take an oath to support the set of lawful principles written down on paper or somehow recorded no They took an oath when they joined their military service they took an oath to loyalty to an emperor or empress to a dictator or dictatress or a combination of men together to exert a single will in legislation America is very much different not a little bit We don’t take an oath to the President of the United States We take an oath to support and defend Even the buck Private 17 year old kid and the Seaman Deuce right on up to the General officer and the Admiral take the same oath and they’re responsible to stick to that oath even if it means disobeying the orders of the President of the United States or the General officer or the Admiral That’s our Common Law tradition It’s different than all the rest of the world and if we don’t see the contrast between us and them we will not preserve what we have that is such a blessing to us If you don’t even know there’s a difference If you can’t see it If that’s not what you’re constantly stressing in your mind your thinking and your speech no we’re not like them We are holy other Go to the Bible and you see real quick read through the older testament you can pick up on the idea that everything all the will of God that God gave to his people ISRAEL in all of that he said Be ye set apart for a special purpose That’s what holy means CHODOSH in the Hebrew as I am You are different than all other people and I want you to appear different act different respond different do things different than all these other nations and tongues that live around you because if you don’t you won’t preserve your identity You won’t preserve your law and you won’t preserve your freedom well the same thing is true of us That is a first principle of reality If we don’t follow it and say Hey wait a minute we’re different Our loyalty is to the will of the sovereign What is the will of the sovereign True law How does he express his will The laws of Nature unwritten Lex non scripta In Nature around us In creation Meant to be observed and followed or suffer the consequences and the laws of Nature’s God says our Declaration of ‘76 written lex scripta The Bible says William Blackstone in his Commentaries on the Laws of England our Common Law Well after the year 1600 the only way to gain eligibility for an appointment as judge in England’s courts was to first become a Sergeant at Law which means servant at law well uh oh a servant at law Judges and servants were peers in fellowship That doesn’t mean they’re part of the peerage I’m just making the point
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The word peers by the way Peers is a cognate of our word pairs What does pairs mean Not P E We were cleaning pears today peeling them boiled them down put them in quart jars 45 gallons of picked pears well that’s different than P A I R and can also be expressed as a match M A T C H Two things that match The word peer means those that match you They are your mirror image They look like you They in general they have your same standing your economic condition same culture same tongue you know each other and of course we apply that to the trial by jury Jury of peers but judges and servants at law Both of them were servants at law Here’s another feature of our Common Law tradition that’s different than every other country in the world Our judges appointed to the bench in Common Law countries in most all cases are practicing lawyers Somebody said well that’s the problem well of course it can be a problem but just to make a point that’s different than every other country in the world If you’re going to be a judge in Sweden or Russia or Communist China you don’t study to be a lawyer You don’t study the law no You go to school and learn how to be a judge well what does a judge do A judge in those countries is part of the civil service ranks like in the Federal system GS 10 or 12 that’s what they are They don’t know anything about the law and don’t care to Their job is to enforce the will of the state that’s all it is They’re cogs in the machinery of the government They’re not in fellowship listen to me close They’re not in fellowship with the lawyers that argue for the court They’re not like them They’re not peers with them They’re not the same kind of people not at all Is that bad Oh that’s terrible Freedom won’t last when you do that Why do I say that well when a lawyer goes into court and this is true it’s a matter of reputation When a lawyer goes into court he has something in common with the judge what is it They’re both lawyers and because they’re both lawyers and he has something in common with the judge he also has something in common with his client He’s not a judge His client’s not a judge either The lawyer is a lawyer The judge is a lawyer but the client is not a lawyer so that means that the lawyer arguing on behalf of his client can stand between the judge and his client and identify with both of them to some degree hopefully A judge can get used to a lawyer in a small court and come to trust that lawyer when he tells him this that or the t’other As a matter-of-fact the Ethics Code for lawyers in a Common Law country are different than civil law countries says that the judge must accept as true what a lawyer tells him until proven otherwise Of course that causes problems
Then it’s up to the other lawyer the other litigant to call the lawyer out if he’s a liar Does it happen You bet it happens It happens a lot but I’m trying to make a distinction between the way we do things and the way the rest of the world does things and I find an analogy here also The Bible says there is only one mediator between God and man The Bible says that the mediator is our lawyer who pleads our case well who is it well it’s the man of God’s own choosing Jesus Christ but he is God almighty reduced to the span of a man To flesh so he can identify with the judge who is the Supreme judge of all the world says our Declaration of ‘76
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God the father He’s on the bench Jesus Christ is a member of the God head with him but also Jesus Christ is like us Born of woman Tempted at every point just like us We can identify with him and we’re supposed to and he identifies with us and he can stand in the middle and identify with both parties and make an argument on our behalf and by the way God the father setting on the bench trusts Jesus Christ when he tells him something When Jesus Christ tells the judge his father he believes what he says now if you’ve got that kind of an advocate going for you before the maker of heaven and earth and all that in the midst including you well you’ve got a good lawyer So be encouraged about that and I hope you shout that he is your lawyer because if he is you’ve won your case and he will keep reminding the judge that you’ve won your case In fact he’ll remind the judge that he won it for you (haha) that’s enough to giggle about Let me finish this paragraph I’ve got just a couple to go Well Sergeants at law ranked just below knights but just above a knight’s assistant Listen we’re talking about esquires here The knight’s immediate assistant which was usually a teenage boy an armor bearer was called esquire That wasn’t a title of nobility for him either He couldn’t pass that one along Now knighthood that’s a title of nobility but a lawyer was not in the peerage He didn’t have a title of nobility A Common Law lawyer a common lawyer as they call them in England and Canada yet today That’s what they are here in America but we don’t call them that very often so a knight was part of the peerage Paul McCartney is a knight of the former group the Beatles the queen Lizzie knighted him That means he can pass that on to his children That’s a title of nobility Just below him though was the non peerage and just below him was the Sergeant at law He had rank in England and he was also later on not then so much he was called a Sergeant which means servant at that time but below him was the esquire the boy that carried the armor for the knight who was part of the peerage and could pass his title along well both Sergeants at law servants at law and Sergeants they call them sergeants they were land freeholders of land by military tenure ranked below knights – Knights were part of the peerage but in the United States some append the title esquire after the names of American lawyers as an abbreviated title of courtesy E S Q Esquire The term so used however signifies neither class nor peerage Moreover the Constitution bars both the United States and any of the several states to grant any such title of nobility It’s against the law in America That’s this part of the Constitution of the United States Article 1 Section 9 and Article 1 Section 10 No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them shall without the consent of Congress accept of any present emolument office or title of any kind whatsoever from any king prince or foreign state No state it says shall grant any title of nobility so what our Constitution forbids is any government in our country from granting a title of nobility and from any person in our country from accepting a title of nobility from another country Now we have things like for example Kentucky Colonels Kentucky Colonels are only bestowed I believe by the governor of Kentucky Originally the Kentucky Colonels was a veterans’ organization like the American Legion or the VFW and it was an organization for veterans of our war for separation from Britain
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They were called the Kentucky Colonels but today the governor does bestow that title to people but again it’s not hereditary so it’s not unlawful it’s not a title of nobility In any event the title esquire for a lawyer is a misapplication in light of history Why do I say that Because originally English barristers held the title sergeant which means servant of the law but never did they hold the title in old England of esquire That was the fellow that carried the armor for the man who was knighted In addition to their tight fitting caps to distinguish their position until the year 1694 the servants in law in England wore robes of varying colors but always of the same cut The sergeants robes that’s servants influenced John Jay who was on the first panel of the United States Supreme Court They influenced John Jay to begin the United States Supreme Court justices’ custom of wearing robes Many American State Courts such as those of Kentucky and Missouri resisted judges’ wearing robes until well after the year 1900 In his prologue to Canterbury Tales which was back during the time of John Whycliffe the author of Canterbury Tales Goeffrey Chaucer He was a sergeant at law servant at law he provides a 14th Century description of the sergeant at law’s dress and manners and maybe you read We did when I was in high school we read the Canterbury Tales well I think that’s enough Thank you for your indulgence My comments are my own and they may or may not be the position of the Leadership of National Liberty Alliance but again they may and I appreciate as always NLA allowing me a few minutes to say a few words You can get this book I want to mention OH Join me on Saturdays We’re teaching a due process class Go to commonlawyer.com www.commonlawyer.com and you can click on a link there and participate It will tell you how It’s early in the morning Central time 10 to noon and we are recording and posting them from what I understand on the website Back to you Gerard if I didn’t put you to sleep And then we have silence Maybe just maybe he’ll wake up Gerard’s a working man He’s trying to keep a business up and run a family Children and grandchildren
(Brent concludes)
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Gerard: I heard my name
Brent: You can see Gerard on Wednesday on Patriots’ Soapbox He’s as relaxed on PSB as he is on Monday night calls
Gerard: I don’t think I’ve snored on there yet
Brent: And you can see him on PSB by the way if you ever wondered what he looked like
Gerard: Don’t give away my secrets That’s top secret don’t you know
Brent: We’re having a hard time hiding when we’re on this public platform Gerard you know
Gerard: You’ve got to either hide or come out like a lion and get louder
Brent: Well said
Gerard: I can take a question or two Steve
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Gerard: Maybe you can’t hear me We now have 12 minutes Terry from New Jersey
Terry: I was reading something about Breonna Taylor the woman who was shot up in Kentucky six times by the cops and the prosecutor came back with no bill Now he is being asked to resign they got like a petition several thousand names to ask to tell him to resign and if I was wondering do you have any thoughts on what the implications of that are because it’s really This fly in the face of everything that we’ve been talking about over the years that the prosecutor usurping the power of the public
Gerard: I’ll tell you that story kind of escaped me because I was so busy with everything else and I never looked into the meat and potatoes of it I know they used it as an excuse for more rioting The prosecutor came back What happened to the Grand Jury Where was the Grand Jury on this thing
Terry: The Grand Jury That’s the thing about it is that the prosecutor never presented the case to the Grand Jury in a sense that he didn’t present murder charges or manslaughter or anything like that See that’s the whole thing is that the it’s a very peculiar case because what the prosecutor did was he just presented evidence that one of the cops fired an inadvertent round into a neighbor’s house and they completely ignored the fact that this woman was killed in her own home by these three cops and was shot six times Now of course you know she thought that it was somebody else breaking in The cops didn’t identify themselves The cops say they did and so it’s very funny how this goes This is really what should be gone for the Grand Jury The prosecutor is saying no We’re not even going to look at this whether the cops did anything wrong
Gerard: That’s bad it doesn’t even look right whether you think they were right or wrong They should have left it up to a jury a Grand Jury of her peers
Terry: That’s what got me High profile civil right lawyer named Benjamin Crump He doesn’t do anything about it because he obviously he’s a part of the club and doesn’t want to rock the boat or tell these people and these people apparently whether they’re just a bunch of dumb hicks that they don’t go to the court and present their own presentment
Gerard: There’s definitely something wrong there It’s politics as usual It’s who you know
Terry: Of course it’s an old boy network and you would think that her lawyer Benjamin Crump being black would be sympathetic to the fact that the woman who was shot was also black Instead his allegiance apparently is to the BAR and his other corrupt colleagues in it He’s not interested in doing justice
Gerard: You would think now they would be more sensible to those facts The deep state NWO right now they want more chaos It didn’t fit their agenda so they made it go the way they wanted it to
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Terry: I’ll send you a copy of that article I think it’s very interesting what’s going on there
Gerard: It sounds very fishy to begin with More might come out in the future too
Terry: That’s the interesting thing about it is that this woman got shot like six months ago and only relatively recently did the SHTF with regard to all the implications Basically they tried to sweep it under the rug With all these other people being shot it’s finally people are starting to say what about me
Gerard: It smells like it has a problem
Terry: They can’t figure out that the Grand Jury belongs to the people The prosecutor should keep his nose out of everything
Gerard: The Grand Jury decided that the cops did the right thing but the prosecutor presented it such a way to them that you could argue that they were tainted
Terry: They did the same thing in my case you know
Gerard: They sent it to a Grand Jury He only said you got to consider this and this That’s too much control of a Grand Jury It’s not right
Terry: They indicted me for having an assault weapon a large high capacity magazine and low behold I found out later on that after I did my appeals once they confiscated your weapon they were supposed to do a forfeiture proceeding and never did Apparently what happened with my property it’s probably in a closet and just kind of disappeared I’m going to contact the FBI and Homeland Security and say WTH are these people doing You want to get these guns off the street Why aren’t they following the law Why is it just disappearing into thin air
Gerard: There’s two systems of justice
Terry: I wrote several FOIA requests to the person in charge They denied every one Obviously they’re all covering up for each other
Gerard: Keep track of it because there has to be a change of command If that thing disappears that’s another indictment They can’t even sell that – That has to go through a whole process
Terry: That’s right The forfeiture action It can’t just disappear which is what they’re saying happened
Gerard: They don’t know where it is – Is it going to turn up in a crime now
Terry: That’s what I’m thinking
Gerard: Is it one of those guns what’s his name was running guns there
Terry: An AR-15 knock off
Gerard: They allowed those guns to disappear
Terry: This is whole part of this whole scam where they filed false criminal charge against me as executor of my father’s estate in order to steal it but they did stop there They never did an accounting of the personal property of the estate I think my sister stole some of that too That’s the whole thing They don’t do any kind of accounting They don’t follow the law They don’t do what they’re supposed to
Gerard: So you inherited it
Terry: No it was my personal property My sister said that I threatened to kill her which is not true
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She comes over to the house she wasn’t even living there I lived there She just barges in with no exigent circumstances Before that she called the cops to force her way into the house where she did not live The prosecutor gets her on the stand and tries to get her to change her testimony before the Jury Trying to say I called him first before I barged into the house because the cops said I had to let her in there or they’re going to arrest me I mean this whole thing is really crazy They dropped both of them The assault weapon and the large capacity magazine First of all it wasn’t an illegal assault weapon and it wasn’t a large capacity magazine but they just throw that in there so they can see what hits the fan The whole thing was a farce My Trial lawyer was pathetic He wasn’t prepared We did a good appeal and expose them as being racketeers My appellate lawyer said even if you believed everything that my sister said she said that the alleged threat was conditional and transitory it was not even terroristic threat according to the law so what they’re doing is they’re putting their own interpretation terroristic
Gerard: That was big years ago
Terry: It was actually long ago There was all fraud There’s no Statute of limitation on fraud I got a webcam and a nice microphone to start a public access channel to start exposing all the stuff they’re doing to put up on YouTube
Gerard: You send them to Ollie so he can put them on Q17 News We’re looking for citizen reporters We also have a platform to go further
Terry: I’ve been following that The judge the court the testimony you could put there
Gerard: The judge said you cannot record it or reproduce Technically we’re not supposed to pass that around They put it on an electronic media over the phone and she says You can’t record this or reproduce it or re-transmit it Meanwhile they got 60 80 people on a phone line that they’re not even controlling in the first place how do you think you can control that recording I don’t really believe that legally they can control that recording because it was a court reporter who was typing it and then there’s a tape in the courtroom with that phone call that’s something different that’s outside of the normal auspices of the court How can they say that can’t be public information or FOIA request that You should be able to get that for the cost of the DVD which Bob Schultz took them to court and won that case I don’t believe that she can tell you that you can’t
Terry: I don’t believe that she can
Gerard: She started out that was part of her rules You cannot record or reproduce this call When you go in a courtroom like a lot of the courtrooms they don’t allow cameras It’s up the judge first of all and we went through that when we had our court watcher system when we found out that as long as they knew ahead of time that you were going to tape it and there was no objections like if you’re in a family court situation and there’s private personal stuff they won’t let you record it because you’ve got children Peoples’ reputations needs to be kept under wraps That’s the only time I can see where they would that would be exigent circumstances that the exception is should be not the rule it should be the exception right just anybody’s free to sit in that court and listen to it Do you ever see the newspaper where the guy’s sketching because they won’t let cameras in and they do pencil sketches and I don’t get that whole thing maybe Brent can comment on some of that stuff I don’t know where they get off with all this stuff like that I mean if I can sit there and I can listen I can be a court watcher and I can write an Affidavit that’s kind of reproducing the court isn’t it in a matter of speaking maybe it’s not in other words it’s my version of what went on and that’s why we like people doing Affidavits of what they heard in court because that’s a good deterrent against them changing the written record because just like that the recorder can’t hear what you’re saying and they do keep a recording to check the transcript the written transcript of the court reporter if there’s a discrepancy that master recording is supposed to be what settles any dispute over the transcript but now you’ve got a phone conversation a phone testimony that’s a third thing entering into the picture that I don’t know if they made any laws on that particularly or if it’s just up to the judge’s discretion
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Terry: I think it’s up to the judge’s discretion
Gerard: You’re right because sometimes they let us record them anyway when we had that fellow working for us doing the court reporters he was recording them and as long as we let the judge know a day or two ahead of time they usually let us record them so there you go We need to find out more of this because now if we’re going to be going on cases and they’re going to be doing this electronic media we really need to nail down where the law is on that Common Law common sense in my life it would seem to me that you should be able to get that with no trouble but obviously she’s saying you can’t reproduce this and re-transmit it
Terry: What’s interesting in New York Federal Court they require that you give up your phone They don’t want people recording but in New Jersey they don’t have that rule in Federal Court
Gerard: Each court’s making its own rules up which I think they feel they have the right to do that It might be in part of the law If anybody out there that’s familiar with the court system understands this more we could throw some more light on We’re going to end it here We’ll be back here next week same time Keep your powder dry and pray for the nation because we’re going into a very tough time right now very tough
Terry: Thanks
Gerard: Thanks Terry Always a pleasure bye
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